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vestram mentem, honoratiimi Domini. Percepi dixnam vestro
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aurem exemplis, hisi prare eric, separelulis exempla perspicua
ecerta a dubiis, ut eo melius postea ex detinitione exemplo
rum certorum judicare possimus uerum illa dubia sint lubstantia
RECHO? PERIPATETICOS. Rectemiones, Sicenim e proce
dic Philolophus, dum lib. 7. Mecaph. cap. 2. antequam detinitio-
nem tracat, suipponit, dari substancias. et exempla manifectis.
sima ex corporibus exhibet, uc animalia, plantas ex earum par-
tes, ac naturalia corpora, ut isnem, aGUaM, TErEA, CXtCrOTUM
quoque singula et quxcunq; aut horium partes aut ex his sunts
aue partibus aut omnibus, ut catum et ejus partes, (ydera, Lu
nam et Solem. Tum subjunsit, quod quidam corporis ter-
minos, ut superticiem, lineam, punctum et unitatem substan-
cias esse, eemagis quam corpus et Colidum putaverint. Item
alios praeter sensibilia non putasse aliguid esse substantiam, quos-
dam plura et qua magis sempiterna sune, (Sicuti Plato fecerit, cu-
sus oxinionem quodidex sinc substantix refitareod. J ib. 7. cap. 14.
eciplas species et machematica duas substantias alseruisse, ter-
tiam vero censibilium corporum substantiarm, Speusippum
vero etiam plures substantias cecisse, ab uno extendisse Cubstan-
rias ad principia cujus que substantia, quoruim aliud sit nume
rorum, aliud magnitudinum, aliud anima. Denique quos
cam fuisse qui species et numeros, non autem lineas et luperti
cies, neque caeluum e sensibilia habuterine pro substantiis. loi
eur necelle est, ut et nos conveniamus, quanam habeamus pro
substantiis. Niror vero, quod exempla certa desideres, cum éso,
enilosoptum secutus certissima dederim, nempe corpora natu-
ralia. Neque creco, Doum necabis esse substantiam, quem et
inter substantias Racim memorat Philosophus lib. 7. Metaph. c. 2.
Revero Si Deum substantiam esse asseris, cur de Arigelo qui a quo.
Spiritualis naturae est, dubitares? An vero Forto Ratuis, ango
tum esse accidens? TTRO. Non tam quaerendum est, quic.
nos stacuamus, quam de quo dubitencalii, qui ex ip si Ciibstantias.
dasi allerum. Credo erim, quoa quaratis detiricionem sublanci